Y-Yes Committee
Neil Levy
19263 E. U.S. Highway 24
Woodland Park, CO 80863
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The YMCA of the Pikes Peak Region
Frequently Asked Questions
The following questions have already been asked by residents of Woodland Park. Please contact us if your question is not answered below.
1. Will I be able to utilize the YMCA if I am NOT a member?
Answer: Any person can buy a day pass to either the aquatic center for about $4 a day or the entire facility for about $10 per visit. What a great way to spend your day!
2. In regard to a 1% sales tax, just how much is that, and when would it be paid out?
Answer: The project will cost about $15M to build. If the sales tax initiative passes, think of it like this: for every $100 you spend at Woodland Park retailers, the tax will mean an additional $1 to you, the consumer. That $1 goes into the fund to build the YMCA. Initially, we will need to work toward raising $2-4M in a capital campaign, and then the City would secure a bond for the remaining $11-13M that will be paid out with the tax increase. Given the current economic climate, if the tax revenues remained constant, the bond would be re-paid in 20 years, and the tax will be sunsetted once the bond is paid off.
3. What about the interest costs associated with a project like this?
Answer: In preparing the financials and bidding out this project, our City Manager, David Buttery has compared a number of funding options, and the committee agreed that the combination of a capital campaign and a sales tax increase would be the best financing option. His research and planning have included interest costs and the timeline we can anticipate for this process, but obviously, the sooner we start, the sooner we will have a YMCA facility in Woodland Park!
4. Can you explain about the risks involved in financing a project like this?
Answer: Sales tax is different from property tax, in that it carries a higher degree of appreciable risk. The financing for this project lies with those who shop in our community – and studies show that almost half those revenues come from visitors and people traveling from outside our community.
5. Where is the principal in all of the funding? What if Wal-Mart backs out in year 8 of the 20-year process? The tax revenues they generate for this community are essential for the project, and that was a significant part of the agreement for them to build here.
Answer: The principal would be repaid simultaneously – the principal and interest are both wrapped into the numbers presented, so there isn’t the potential for a large interest payment coming due and sinking this project. Wal-Mart committed for the long haul, and they aren’t going anywhere. It is extremely unlikely that they would leave this community.
6. In the 1994 Master Plan the survey respondents indicated their second priority preference in the community was for a rec center – the only thing mentioned as more important at that time was having a hospital facility with a 24-hour Emergency Room facility. Would it make more sense to defer some of these pieces, and make the petition and subsequent ballot question a one-part question.
Answer: The question cannot be as simple as whether voters want the facility – they’ve already shown that they want the YMCA facility. The real question is whether they’re willing to spend 1% more in sales taxes to underwrite the costs associated with building this facility.
7. What about opportunity costs – will we be forgoing any City services to build and finance this facility?
Answer: The tax increase could be deemed temporary – once the facility is paid for, the tax will sunset and that tax will no longer be collected. There are no services lost or forgone for those living in Woodland Park.
8. Assuming this tax initiative passes, how stable is this revenue stream to finance the project?
Answer: This tax would be specific to the YMCA, and while no one can predict an end to this economic downturn, it is safe to say that it will get significantly better over the next few years, so the project won’t be in jeopardy.
9. How much of this tax will fall to those living in Woodland Park?
Answer: The recent Gruen & Associates report shows that approximately half of the sales tax revenues generated in Woodland Park comes from local residents. The remainder comes from visitor and tourist traffic, as well as those who live in outlying areas of the County.
10. What is required to pass the 1% sales tax?
Answer: We will need to obtain signatures on the petition from at least 15% of the registered voters in Woodland Park, roughly 800 – 1,000 signatures, in time enough that the signatures can be verified before the election deadline. Once that requirement has been fulfilled, the election question has to pass with a majority in support of the tax initiative at the April 6, 2010 elections.
11. Is this the right place for the facility? Wouldn’t it make sense to consider the land adjacent to Meadow Wood Sports Complex?
Answer: We believe the property adjacent to Memorial Park is the best for for a number of reasons: (1) The City already owns this land – the plans and drawings are specific to this location; (2) One of the goals in building a YMCA here is to draw traffic into our downtown area, and drive more growth in the local businesses; (3) This location makes the facility accessible from all parts of the City, and thus a more feasible option for after-school programming.
12. Do we really need all these options shown in this plan?
Answer: There have been a number of surveys in recent years, and they all point to one thing – residents here want more than just a place to swim. Residents have shared that they want racquetball courts, a track, weight training areas, wellness rooms, climbing wall, family fun pool, and a lap pool. The facility as presented does not include a competitive pool or diving well, as those were among the more expensive options, and knowing that we will likely only draw in two swim meets per year, these options were eliminated from the list because they were not costeffective.
13. Once the facility is completed, and the Y folks step in to run the program, what percentage of the profits are shared?
Answer: The YMCA organization is a non-profit entity, and it operates such that any surplus monies are re-invested in the general reserve funds that fund programming, services and equipment. After their overheard costs are covered, any remaining income is used to underwrite capital expenditures and equipment maintenance costs that are not a part of the daily budgets. The mission is to build strong families, not to clear a profit…
14. How many positions, and what types of jobs would this type of facility bring to our community?
Answer: Each YMCA facility is designed to be autonomous within the community where it resides. The members of the community determine the programming, and most facilities are locally staffed. This facility would bring about 100-120 new jobs to the community, of which 10-15 jobs would be full-time. The remaining jobs are part-time, and more prevalent in the summer months (i.e., day-care supervision, swimming lessons, life-guarding). The Y taps into the youth population for these roles, hiring high school and college students.
15. If you can only recover 50% of the necessary funds, where does the rest of the money come from?
Answer: The Y conducts an Annual Fund Drive to assist within the community for slidingscale subsidy. Membership Fees account for about 50% of the revenues, Program Fees are another 15%, Charitable Donations equal about 25%, and Day Use Fees are the remaining 10%.
16. What are the Annual Membership Fees for a Family? For an Individual?
Answer: Membership for an Individual costs $60 per month; for a Family the dues are $80 per month; Youth or Teen Memberships are $25 per month; Senior Adult membership costs $34 per month. Visit www.ppymca.org to use the YMCA’s membership calculator to determine your specific household membership rate.
17. Is this approach, where the City builds the facility and the Y runs the day-to-day operation, the norm?
Answer: More and more often, this collaborative approach is the norm.
18. Are there facilities of similar size/design in other parts of Colorado?
Answer: There are comparable sized facilities in Monument and Pueblo, but it is more difficult to make the comparison, because the surrounding communities are significantly larger in number than Woodland Park.
19. What is the most effective approach for the capital campaign?
Answer: Using the Pueblo YMCA as an example, they first pursued a commitment from the City and the County, and then went to a number of foundations to request grant funds to further their progress. It is definitely more beneficial to be able to show foundations and corporate donors that the community is already vested in the project before they agree to buy in for the capital campaign.
20. What do you think we could ask for, and get, from the Boettcher Foundation?
Answer: As a non-profit entity, we cannot speak to what a particular foundation or group would give towards this project. We can share what we know about their giving history with the YMCA facilities in the Colorado Springs area, and then go from there. Unless we can demonstrate that the public is behind the project, it doesn’t make sense to pursue it.
21. How long will it take to build this facility?
Answer: The only comparison for the timeline is the Tri-Lakes facility, which took about 13 months. Its realistic to expect our project may take 16-24 months to complete, given the potential construction delays with winter weather in Teller County, and any obstacles with the capital campaign.
22. If the 1% sales tax initiative passes in April, what is the gap until we could break ground for this project?
Answer: One to two years, again, dependent upon funding for the capital campaign and potential weather delays.
23. What can the YMCA do to help us convince potential supporters in our community that this is a worthwhile venture?
Answer: As a non-profit, its not ethical for us to lobby for the tax increase because we aren’t taxed in the same manner as a retailer or consumer. However, we can offer materials that address our programming and policies in great detail, pieces that explain about the services we offer, and often times, we find that these materials can sway those folks who aren’t “sold” on the idea.
24. What options do we have for expanding the facility if we want to add some of these elements back into the plan at a later time?
Answer: The facility, as drawn, would have some flexibility to expand, but if we are talking about taking up more of the space at Memorial Park, then the community has to vote to approve that change before we can commit to it.
25. Will there be an opportunity to revisit/change the plans? Are we still in a position to take input or other suggestions?
Answer: It’s not too late – we can still revisit the design options, but there is a certain amount of value-engineering in moving or relocating some things. Again, the advantages here are that this is City-owned property, and that this is an opportunity to draw visitors into our downtown. The requests for qualifications were submitted by a number of construction firms, and the bid was awarded to Nunn Construction. They typically bid out about 75-85% of their jobs, and this would bring work to local contractors from Woodland Park.
26. If the voters say yes to this, and the work doesn’t begin right away, does that change anything?
Answer: Given the timing, we may opt to alter a few things, but the components the committee has selected are essential to the success of the facility. We’d like the construction to follow the drawings as closely as possible, as they represent the wishes of those in the community.
27. Does the facility have plans for a fitness center?
Answer: Yes, the fitness center would be located on the second floor.
28. Are there plans for a competitive pool?
Answer: A competition pool adds $2M to the price tag of this project, and with only two swim meets anticipated per year, the community cannot re-coup its investment. There’s a very small percentage of Y members who prefer to lap-swim – this is a good place to cut back on the front end, and when the community grows, the competitive pool could be added when its more feasible.
29. Would the $1.3M in tax revenues each year support high-end components?
Answer: There would be no competitive lap pool, but the compromise is a section of 3-4 lanes roped off specifically for lap swimming.
30. Is it true that the donations decline or stop altogether once the construction process begins?
Answer: Hopefully the capital campaign has laid the financial foundations before construction begins. Yes, the donations do slow down once he build begins – people see the progress and think, “Looks like you’re rolling right along here, why do you need my donation?”
31. If the tax initiative passes, will this go back to City Council for another vote?
Answer: No, if the tax initiative passes with a citizens’ referendum, then it takes effect immediately. If it passes on the ballot April 6th, it is likely that retailers will begin collecting the tax as early as May 1st.
32. There will be a lot of questions from the members of our community as we describe the process and help them understand the need for this facility. How should we address their questions?
Answer: The Y will help us prepare our marketing materials, and we hope to have them at the same time as the petitions, next week. The marketing pieces will address their questions, and direct them to the website for more detailed information.
33. Is there a concern that this facility would take away some of the interest in Parks and Recreation Department’s programs? Would it take away business opportunities from those fitness facilities and health clubs in the area?
Answer: The way this usually splits out in other communities, is that the Y manages the indoor programs (i.e., swimming lessons, basketball, etc.) and the local Parks and Rec Department manages the outdoor activities (i.e.s, baseball, soccer, volleyball, etc.) It is important to stress that we are not using tax dollars for the purpose of competing with previously established private enterprises, and the Y facilities offer much more than a traditional health club. The local gyms will likely see a difference in their clientele, as many adults prefer to work out in an environment without children present. The Y’s primary service is that they are a large afterschool-care provider. Consider the example of UPS and Federal Express – they compete with the post office every day, and continually raise the bar or overnight delivery.
